Event:2015/03/26 Weekly Delegate's Meeting

The meeting begins promptly at 7pm, every Thursday, and ends promptly at 9pm, unless delegates agree to continuation. Contents:
 * ==Weekly Omni Delegates' Meeting - 26 March 2015==
 * Introductions
 * Announcements
 * Working Group Report-Backs
 * Proposals
 * Discussions
 * Action Items
 * Tabled
 * Optional Breakout Session

Info
(3m)
 * URL of this pad: https://pad.riseup.net/p/omninom


 * Important Note for the Pad:
 * Please do not move or delete meeting notes from the pad, unless you  have archived them properly. Always leave the most recent meeting's   notes, and the template at the bottom. !! Thank you.


 * Explanation of hand signals:
 * "deaf applause", "raised hand", "point of process", "direct response",  "time's up", "stop and reflect", "kermit" (wildcard), etc.


 * = Attendees = (2m)

kwe Rachel Kate
 * Facilitator/s:
 * Stacktaker: Kate


 * Introduction to the Omni Commons & our values:


 * Explanation of progressive stack: Raise your hand and make eye contact  with the stack taker. Please wait your turn, and try not to interupt  or  speak over others. Direct responses are allowed only as Points Of   Information/ Clarifications, etc (use hand signal). For everything  else,  please raise your hand and wait your turn.


 * Timekeeper: Paul
 * Reminder to keep comments brief.
 * Stack taker: Kate
 * Notetaker/s: Nicole, Rachel


 * Vibe Reader: Mary
 * Reminder to stay calm, be respectful, and think before speaking.


 * Next weeks facilitator(s): Nik (St nik) and Mary
 * Encourage someone who hasn't facilitated before. If they'd like  support, someone who has facilitated before can join them to facilitate   together! If they'd like to know how the agenda works, here's a page   outlining the different parts of our agenda:  https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Facilitating_General_Meetings_Tips_and_Info


 * == Delegates ==
 * BAPS:Nicole
 * Black Hole:Chloe
 * CCL:Mary
 * FNB: Darin
 * La Commune:David Brazil
 * MPM: Kate
 * Sudo Room: Matt S, Jenny
 * TIL:Joel


 * Quorum: Yes

Please be brief!
 * == Introductions == (5-10m)


 * Introduction to the Omni Commons & our values:


 * ICE BREAKER ACTIVITY??
 * Introduce yourself: Name; Prefered Pronoun; Affiliation; If you are new, what is one thing that brought you here?

Any Omni-related announcements. Please be brief! Maximum 1 (one) minute per announcement. Reminder: Working Groups reports are after this, please save W.G. announcements for later. => Mary: talk to Jenny or someone on the communication => Amgo: it's a great idea, maybe have it funnel to discuss list (cc-ed), so
 * = Announcements = (5-15m)
 * Kwe: Suggestion to start a global Omni email account to handle correspondences with the outside. We already have a shared FB account that we use for that purpose in the social media world and it seems to me it would be a good thing to also have one for email. Logistically, it would make it easier to keep track of issues and make sure there is a general log of communications instead of all using our individual accounts for Omni-related business. Also, it can help us cultivate the collective voice of Omni so that people wanting to do business with us have one single global email address to send messages to, that we can all log into and respond to. It might also help alleviate issues like people dropping the ball on communications (for whatever reasons), as well as help shield individuals who might have delicate information to communicate to others (I feel particularly for David Keenan and the constant negative reactions he personally has to bear simply because he is the individual with the most knowledge about permits and things of that nature about the building).

Darin: trees are being chopped down at people's park RIGHT NOW :(

David Keenan: Romeo and Juliet performances next 3 weekends Fri/Sat; also this sunday WHISKY and WOMEN cajun zydeco music 6-9

Rachel: we still need positions at the front desk filled! pls sign up for a shift to give tours, welcome ppl Amgo: is there a training for front desk ppl? yes, an orientation is available


 * Food Not Bombs needs more volunteers for Wed, Thurs, Friday and Sunday (meets here on Sunday) - meets at 11am

Please be brief! Maximum 5 (five) minutes per W.G. WGRBs are Alphabetical; All W.G.s are equally important. Report-backs consist of answering 3 (three) questions:
 * = Working Group Report-Backs = (5-10
 * What did you accomplish this week?
 * What problems or action items are you currently working on?
 * What do you need to bring to our attention and/or need help with?

Building, Permits, and Facilities
This group needs help; https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/building Ballroom-readiness needs and plans: https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Ballroom-readiness


 * David: we meet every monday at 8, sparsely attended, plans are made, mapped out, load assesments, cads, etc are done, really ready to start working and planning out stuff so

please come to those if you are interested in those!

Challenging Domniant Culture (CDC)
Meetings:Sundays at 3pm Conflict group- is at 6pm ask amgo for locations if you'd like to join
 * CDC has split into "conflict" resolution/mediation group and just CDC

don't want to lay the responsibility on any one perosn who happens to be thereat one time, more like a phone/email tree, of volnteers who want to help keep the vibe good, nothing official,
 * omincommons.org/lists for the new mailing list "mediation"

Mary: with actual trianing sessinons, open to th enetire community, even if yo udon't want to be a mediator for the omni

Amgo:for a long time CDC has been working on conflict things within omni, and it was getting bigger than the original aims, so now there is a new working group called "Conflict"- there are often hot tubs involved
 * integrating restorative justive ideas, trianing, learning things
 * CDC is challenging power structures, and how they operate in real time withpeople and how the operate at omniand so one of the things we talked about was burnout, could def use more humans, but not as much as other wg's 3pm Sundays

Commons
Meetings: Saturdays at 1pm We review proposals for space rental Jenny:* We need more responsibilibuddies! If we had more folks taking on just one event a month, it would be a huge burden relief from the current core crew of Niki, DK, Jenny, Rachel and Sarah P. commons handles scheduling/ event booking check wiki page "responsibilibuddy" for all the how-to, details of what it entails:
 * fun group because you get to see firsthand all the awesome stuff that's happening in the building every week

Rachel:the wide range of activities

Kwe: Something i've been thinking about in terms of the management of the space.

Communications / SysAdmins
Meetings: nope :)

Finance
Meetings: Wednesday at 7pm
 * we're fine now but we pay 20k a mo. total (incl. loan repayments) and we take in from tenants and collectives + space rental bout 14k; we still have indiegogo $ and are considering now focusing on getting the space open and accessible / putting a hold on new events so construction projects can happen that will get us the permits / code compliance to OPEN; thinking about funneling our energies into bldg/maintenance projects to ready the space; also structural bldg projects need to have accompanying budgets submitted; amgo met w accounting coop willing to help with taxes!! they are awesome and great but cost $.. we're looking at budgeting it in but still lookin for acctnt to do pro-bono work! jose from last meeting??

Kitchen
Meetings:
 * FNB meetings wednesdays @7 at the longhaul

Welcoming
Meetings: Thursdays at 6pm Contact: welcoming@omnicommons.org
 * Still need to fill many front door shifts - help out, it's mostly hanging out in La Commune and giving tours!


 * Sign up here: https://ethercalc.com/omni-front-desk

ANNOUNCEMENTS LAST MINUTE?

FNB needs volunteers on wednesdays, thursday (and maybe friday and sunday) if anyone knows how to cook! Sunday is at the omni (we have plenty of people on tuesday)

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======================================================= BODY MOVEMENT & SOCIAL ACTIVITIES (5m break) ????

Please provide the following information with your proposal:
 * = Proposals =
 * The date the proposal was put on the pad;
 * The group or person making/bottom-lining the proposal;
 * Who will be speaking to the proposal at the meeting;
 * Where the full text or other information about the proposal can be found, if it's not all here.


 * Begin with a 5-20 minute summary/question & answer/conversation time limit; add 5-10m increments from then on

a quick one? No Sidewalk Drinkin' proposal 2015-03-23
(5min) https://omnicommons.org/wiki/No_Sidewalk_Boozin https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Proposals Proposal that no alcohol is to be consumed on the sidewalks & street immediately outside the Omni by Omniers. Rationale: Recent evidence that, and communication from, Omni neighbors who like the Omni generally but at least some neighbors have shown that they will eventually call the cops on the perception of 'drunk people' hanging out outside Omni. The neighborhood is beginning to push back on this and we should respect that. Drinking outside has also attracted local drunks who are not Omninoms with attendant safe space issues This is a clear legal and liability issue for Omni. Cameras on buildings across the street record this activity 24x7 and this could be used to buttress any argument against Omni as a solid, safe place for community gatherings. We recognize that this practice began after a long hard day of working on the space - laying up drywall etc - that folks wanted to simply sit outside, take a break and perhaps have a beer. However it shouldn't be the case that it is normal for having beers outside omni on a daily basis as inevitably trouble will result. This is not a proposal for omni to be a 'dry' space which would be pretty much impossible considering the need of the frequent fundraisers, 'socials', ballroom rentals, etc. It is to say though that no alcoholic beverages are to be consumed in the immediate area outside the premises of Omni. Note: To clarify, this prohibition would include the practice of transferring alcohol to a less-visible container in an effort to be more subtle - ie, that would not make any difference with respect to this proposal.

Discussion about it
David: I've done this many times, this is not a morela judgement its pragmatic, cameras pointed right there, 25hrs a day; all you would need is to edit that footage to create [bad rhaetoric] neighbors won't call the cops just bc people are too loud, and us being around make them feel safer, but they will call the cops when they think drunk people are out there, that;s what the cops say, drunk people and it could just be one neighbor but i feel we're sort of at a tipping pt bc i see local drunks coming over and cans and bottle left and it gives the appearance that even if you're not fdirnking, it looks bad aorund you if you want to have a drink, dink inside (as a member, or at an

David B: i second it, let's vote on it Matt: comment, relevent, it's really important to understand that as an org a lot is gonn ahappen here in thebulding, its significant that we're dealing iwth an issue explicitly; it's really important that we take that seriously, bc now weve said on record that we're committing to this, bc we're aware this is somehting we shouldn't do- from a legal pt, when we say something, we're going to be held to that in many contexts Kwe;in that contex,t what would be the ramification with respec tto dealing with the issue for ppl who are not (assuming we commmunication through signage) but in the case of ppl...si there gng to be a moratorium Matt: if we decide it organizationally and make a stance, we're held to our stance; wheras if it was never brought up on the email list, that's all i'm saying David: not whats drivin this at al, it is actually illegal, cops iwll make you pour out drinks, and in our lease we have explicitly agreed not to do anything illegal in this building, according to this lease, so in a way we already have agreed to it Amgo: this is sort of funls into what the community thinks of us and who omni is as a whole and i guess tha tis why, as opposed to it being about our freedoms and lack there of i guess the way that you guys are talking about it is helping me to understand it as who we want to be outward facing to the community Rachel: what if we changed the lang. to "no open containers" David: slipery sloppe, i would feel like a hypocrite- ou can drink out here bc you have a coffee mug, but you over here whos drinking froma red cup or mug that's not cool; it seems too hard to enforce and hypocritical. Rachel: i think it would be less hypocritical, bc we would be continuing our own practice without breaking the law David: i think we just have to do it Mary: how do we address this in our community- why don't we friendly ask people to take their drink inside and keep up appearances; anytime a community member asks someone to do something personally an dit gets rough- theyll find the same path, ask someone to help you, just wanted to address that because i kind of wanted that spoken Nik: we don't want anything to throw darts at us, so just be aware, have common sense, reduce liabilities on a daily momentarily basis Joel: keeping the language no dirnking out side it does seem simpler, bc determining an open container and not is more work than whether you'r edirnking outside or not STACK: Darin, Matt, Amgo Darin: last night of the dance performance, we had a few African men who came through, i don't know their name,s big men, managed to be drunker than most sailors that ive met, harassed 5 women and one trans person; theyre free to cruise the sidewalk and even if their other friends dont want to get messed up with them or hang out with them- public drunkenness is a problem Matt: No alcohol is to be consumed on the sidewalks and street imedditly, etc (Exact wording) Amgo: dont want to drag this on, agree with this proposal, i want to ask really quickly, what our status is of dirnking inside the omni insurance legality/permits David: hapy to address that, but can we maybe get through this part first? Amgo: does that mean that all drinking happens inside omni and what that means? David: it is complicated- totally okay for any business to have a beer or drink if you're a member of that group, or work, law language, totally happens all the time- that's okay; what gets tricky is serving others alcohol that are not members of your group...imagne a chain of entailments, the person who got you drunk is liable- a member of "commerical" space, bc theyre part of this entity, we are liable, that's a problem

VOTE: In accord: 6 Block = 0 Abstain = 1 (sudo)

--- Date put on pad:3-19 Bottom-lining: Omni Yoga Who: Rachel, Omni Yoga to steward body-movement in the disco room
 * ==Omni Yoga to steward Body-Movement in Disco Room== (~10m)

CURRENT STATE: 1) Technically, booking will continue to operate under OOC, any OY person will be doing point person/responsibilibuddy tasks as they would in other commons spaces. (like we do) This is current successful practice

2) There are are couple of gaps in this practice. Commons Booking attentiontion is given during and around events and classes that occur. There are off-hours when the disco room is not in use and being looked after or maintianed.

2b)There are remnants of old uses for it and random lost and found things. They have been cleaned and labeled, organized and out of the way, though none moved form the room.

2c) There are collective property as well as open use shared property. These have been labeled and tagged with ribbon in the places they happpen to be.

THE DIFFERENCE IN PRACTICE:

2d) The difference for booking would be that OY or an experienced disco room user who are either already frequent users of the space or able to provide the same assurances of Insurance to OY or OOC, will take on these responsibilities for the body-movement activites and things which require insurance. For other activities like movie screenings, meetings, etc., normal practice would continue (like we do)

3) OY will pursue cleaning deposit deductions if they occur, of course, ask space sharers to clean/more and micro-affirm those who do (like we do)

IMPROVEMENTS:

4) The improvements will be because OY willtake care of the disco room, keep it clean and kid safe, provide a mini-library for omni, other sharable supplies and steward those supples and storage areas, during "off-hours" when the room defaults to open commons (like we do)

5) This will bring in more people to help with organizing. Already one OY person will be joining the booking initiative! :)

5b)And there are already people with insurance needs..(R will list)

MAIN DIFFERENCE: OY will take care of getting ppl insured; offering donation-based insurance, pooled funding to make it affordable for members of the collective OY will take care of disco room in off-hours, cleaning OY asks the delegates to be given these responsibilties

DBrazil : this may not even need to be voted on DKeenan : could other collectives still book the disco room as it stands now? Rachel: yes! see item 2d above DK : let's make sure that funds that would go to the omni won't be displaced by funds for insurance.

No Vote Required Yay Awesome

Also see discuss/concensus list Celluloid film development lab Communal workspace Film screenings and workshop
 * == Black Hole Collective Lab Space Proposal ==(~20m)
 * Put on pad March 15
 * Chloe and Vanessa bottomlining proposal
 * Full Text: https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Black_Hole_Collective_Lab
 * Full Text: https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Black_Hole_Collective_Lab
 * Full text:
 * Vision

1x film processor 1x contact printer 1x optical printer 1x flatbed editor 1x sync machine Multiple Rewinds Splicers Multiple film projectors Many more devices to enable celluloid film production Multiple film enlargers
 * Lab / Machines provided to the community:

1x Xenon 16mm film projector (very bright :) Digital HD video projector Some equipment augment existing sound system
 * Resources provided to show films at the omni

Can bring screenings of filmmakers & films to the space
 * Screenings

1. Tooth 2. Matt Christiansen 3. Jason Wade 4. Isaac Sherman 5. Lauren O'Connor 6. Chloe Minervini 7. David Keenan 8. Niko Kommodore 9. Gui Komel 10. Vanessa O'Neill 11. Kent Long 12. Michael Bucuzzo 13. Christina Kolozsvary 14. Zach Iannazzi 15. Sarah Watlington 16. Brooke Porter
 * Collective Members

What do you do? What happens in the world because you exist? (1-3 sentences) By creating an artist-run film lab and workspace/screening space we will be enabling a large community of people working in photochemical celluloid filmmaking (motion picture and still photography), a unique resource, to bring their work through all stages of creation, production, and exhibition in an encouraging community atmosphere. This is important because it will be the only entity of its kind in the western United States. It will be part of a growing community of small artist-run labs worldwide that provide the ability to work in a forcibly rarified format nearing extinction due to the dictates of industrial capitalism. By reclaiming the modes of celluloid production from this rapidly crumbling industry, we will not only be keeping the art form alive and accessible but will also be providing a space to make works outside of the artistic, ideological, and financial compromises inherent in a commercial market.
 * Form questions[edit]1. Mission statement

Black Hole Film Collective is a more recent formation of a looser group of filmmakers with roots in the larger experimental/avant-garde filmmaking community of the bay area. We have been brought together by shared affinities, ideologies and working methods fostered within Black Hole Cinematheque and the constellation of local microcinemas it is a part of. Black Hole Cinematheque has been operating as 16mm archive since 2009 and running free weekly screenings regularly since 2011. These similar affinities led us to a natural merging with the still photography collective to communize our resources and work against an atmosphere of increasing endangerment.
 * 2. Origin and group history. How did you start? What have you done? (1-3 sentences)

Why are you interested in becoming a member? How does your group intend to use the space? What are your needs? (less than 5 sentences) We see the Omni project as an important entity of resistance and community and it seems the perfect place to get involved! Our group intends to use two spaces in the basement to set up a wet lab for processing and printing of still and motion picture film, and a dry work space for editing and post production. We also intend to outfit the ballroom and disco room for various sized screenings, including setting up a projection booth with multiple playback formats (16mm, 35mm, digital video), a new projection screen, and chairs, all for community and event use. Exhibition is an important way to showcase the collectives’ work, as well as the larger international community of filmmakers. By outfitting common spaces for cinematic presentation, we will be transforming them into a greater community asset for the film collective as well as the Omni. In addition, Black Hole Collective Lab seeks to engage community youth members through an educational outreach program. This program would involve teaching young adults about traditional photographic practices, both through the camera and by working in the darkroom. In a world dominated by fast pace technology we aim to provide a space in which analog processes can be preserved. Harnessing interest from our community’s youth will help to preserve these traditional forms of art and create a deeper understanding for modern technology and its influence in both film and photography.
 * 3. Participation in the Omni

What does your group do to support itself financially? What is your best plan for contributing your potential share of rent to the Omni? (less than 5 sentences) BH was originally offered free space by OOC as a member collective to incubate their community resource. To start, we propose to contribute our share of utilities up to $200 per month for the first 2 months beginning April 1st, while we improve and invest in basement infrastructure (mold abatement, new drywall, additional plumbing, improved ventilation, as well as installing improved projection facilities in Ballroom & Disco Room) After two months of working on the space, we can commit $400 rent and better accommodate new contributing members We will contribute more financially as our project and membership grows and infrastructure is established. BH is fully commited to financial transparency. Our collective members will pay a monthly fee to cover rent costs. We plan to have a multi-tiered membership engagement/payment model to increase accessibility. We also want exhibitions and screenings to contribute to infrastructure, supplies and rent costs.
 * 4. Group finances and paying rent

Basement area, showing proposed BHCL lab area and 'Bunker 2' work area If your group would like some dedicated space at the Omni, what square footage and what features are you looking for? Which specific rooms do you feel might be suitable? (1-3 sentences) Shared area: We will contribute analog and digital film projection equipment as we can for use in the Ballroom and Disco Room, so that all Omni member collectives and the community at large can present film and video screenings (with some training.) Dedicated areas: We propose two areas to accommodate community film production and processing; a 'wet' area and a 'dry' area. The 'wet' darkroom will be in the basement in the NW corner. We will complete installation of ventilation and run plumbing to accommodate darkroom sinks and drainage at our expense. We propose a 'dry' area as a dedicated film workspace in Bunker 2 containing irreplaceable, delicate film editing equipment, and sharing a third of Bunker 1 immediately outside the door to bunker 2, that would have some work tables. The Bunker 2 area is an ideal space for BHCL as it is an existing room wherein we can secure irreplaceable film equipment and it provides needed dark space. It is important for those donating equipment to know that it will be kept safe and secure. The equipment is not manufactured anymore and to secure equipment donations, we need to have a secure space. The work tables set up in the Western third of Bunker 1 would be privileged for film production use, including equipment such as light boxes and edit tables. It would be demarcated by a temporary, freestanding partial partition (such as a 'cube' wall) that could still allow access to the rest of bunker room area, while blocking sound etc. We had earlier discussed using the east hallway as workspace, however we recognize that there may be code compliance issues around actively using this space before our final Fire Life & Safety and building inspection has been performed. In order for Black Hole Collective Lab to move in as soon as possible, and to allow fire inspection to move forward smoothly, we would like to leave that space open.
 * 5. Dedicated space

Is there any other information that you think would be useful for us to know about your group? (as many sentences as you like) Our collective is a group with vastly different skills to share and trade. We represent a wide breadth of knowledge and through workshops and educational events, can share these skills and talents and promote arts in our community.
 * 6. Additional

Proposal Discussion(5min)
Feedback / suggestions based on SudoRoom discussion thus far. Seeking feedback from BHL about these topics:

or something else?
 * Reduce months of free rent forbuild-out from 2 months to 1 month.
 * $400 is enough for the wet roomalone, need more $ for the dry room (Bunker 2) and the use of commonspace (tables in Bunker 1).
 * We all (including BHL) expect thatBlack Hole Labs, in the future, at an appropriate time, in anexpedient fashion, will seek to utilize the South East hallway andstorage room in the basement, by building appropriate walls and othermodifications (with all appropriate contingencies addressed). Thiswould utilize currently (mostly) unusable space in a clever,creative, and excellent way that we hope can work for everyone.
 * We all (inclduing BHL) expect thatany investment in mold abatement, drywalling, ventilation,insulation, or other modifications to rooms in the basement(especially those made in a general-purpose fashion like adrain/sink) will be contributed by BHL, even if BHL ends up movinginto another location in the omni commons building or elsewhere.
 * How do members of BHL see folks inthe community utilizing the space? Specific examples should be given,such as "person X comes to section Y of the space to do Z atcost $ with materials A, B, and C". Further, does BHL plan forthe public or folks in the community to come to full-fledged course,workshops, one-on-one instruction, do-it-yourself (DIY) usage,do-it-together (DIT) usage, open hours,
 * How does BHL see itself as acollective of stakeholders in the omni commons and the localcommunity?
 * Perhaps informed by discussions orconclusions from the Commons Working Group, what does BHL think about(not exclusively designating), but generally prioritizing commonspaces in the basement for arts (including music, drawing/painting,and other forms of art)?
 * In terms of the "dry"space, what are the precise needs that BHL has for (a) lockablespace, (b) protection for sensitive equipment, and (c) space forhanging / cutting / editing film (including descriptions of thespecific items and how often they are expected to be used)?
 * Also in terms of the "dry"space, is there any way to reduce the overall footprint of thisspace?

Other comments:


 * Jake is willing to help withplumbing.
 * Yar suggests that if moving roomsbecomes cost-prohibitive, at the time, we are all open and availableto discuss rent credits if necessary, as appropriate.
 * Some sudo room members expressedexcitement for BHL stewarding a community dark room, especiallybecause of the dual use of developing not just celluloid, but filmphotography (still image film).

6 black hole collective members are present!

Joel: has anything changed?

Lauren: we are a beuatiful collective that wants to be here with you and teach everybody how to use film and photo processing and we propose ot have a wetlab in this space and a dry working room and permission to have large equipment in the bunker room (shared workspace in the long old library, and storage in first room on the right)


 * that's rpetty much it- we're not goint ot be exclusivfely there, we're not just gonna be tucked away in the corner and actually hsowing work, in progress, good films, goo dcuration, not just from here but beyond, which is good always

Kate: i dont know how many ppl know abou tlack hole, what they do but i think its a cool wonderful thing ot have here bc they bring an audience already, ppl to get more involved, help it create increased communal opportunities for the collectieves to have fellowship and be with each other in spaces

David: i was gonna speak to a couple of concerns that came upat some other meetings, at several other meetings ; just to get feedback from the prosal, just logistical things that wasn't clearly illustrated- air flow in the basement? and bhc has helped to fix it in the basement (i dont hink anyone nows where the switch is actually --everyone laughs--) the reason that was chosen for a community dark room was that one of the vent ducts in the basement is right there, if we essentially build a room here there would be an air fan ulling in- there's already a grill on shattuck, where it's supposed to come in- creating positive airflow in the basement, into the other room, exhausted up and out the roof (nbest place for things liek that)
 * also hazardous material dispposal; we can make our own fixer that isnt as toxic, it just takes longer to fix things- we're researching it; if CCL had the requirements, we could partner up on it to be environmentall yfriendly
 * one last thing mentioned a littl ein the prposal probably oculdve been articulated more- its really a community resources, not just a bunch of toys for cool kids /small clique to use that no one can touch, intended to be site of collectivisation; cocreative artistic production that i see is logistically essential to the omni along with all the political and social stuff we're doing there- to see this as art practice, really try to engage in communities that way- not as a technology; not about getting a job as a dark room lab person- but creatig menaingful things; is a really vibrant community

Matt: SUDO concerns about chems and ventilations, none of the sudoers had concerns like that- but we did have some and we discussed; summarized to have tangibility: list +overall sentiments: *2mo of rent relief is a bit much, slim it to 1 month and do that work in that time instead, and expecting that 400/.mo would be sufficient for the corner where the wet lab would be, but it's low for both of those spaces, asking you tocome up on the price for that, which i think there was support for other members *cost and risk of sinking money into particular rooms; positive expectation and hope from a lot of sudo room member si sthat the bhc could open their space and move into this hallway and its kind of a technicality, it would be awesome to make it a usable space, youve listed why that's an issue- its a longer term thing; the expectation is taht it woul dbe great for you all to move into that space, *bc it makes unusable space usable and seeing that n improvement syou make will be an inveestment but that you might have to move anyway as long as you understand that, something yall could htink about and discuss *Commons? these middle basement rooms, if they could be used more generally na dprioritized for art in general, like music and other forms, light boxes, standing tables,etc, somethign that could utilize those tables is something the commons can [?[communicate about and the community can help with]?] trying to undertstand in what tangible ways you see about workig in the community a story you would tell for a person in the community coming in and working in this space; good for our membership "oerson x walks in and does action y" to see exactly what tangibly the process looks like; (format, wrkshp, 1-on-=1, etc)
 * is it possible.exact contraints on the amount of space you need lockableand for storing the sensitive/expensive equipment

Kwe: my concern was addresse din yours, in terms of the need for 2 areas- wet and dry- might be competing with the other potential uses of the space and kind of curious as to exaclt what att said

Matt: positive feedback about specifically use the wet lab as dual for photo; sitll phot is another use; when we were talking, one member said: "if we had a wetlab i would make giant photos of x-rays!"

+++++++++Nicole:donations or free? if we as a group decide that we are goint o ask for more than 400 dollars, there oculd be a monthly screening fundraiser

kate- oit was my undetsanding from tlking last week about it, that area wiould be sort of kind of open, hallway and the room would be open while members are around for others to use it for art ppl who need a lightbox or other valuable resources; i'm not sure if my undertstanding is correct

Kwe: couple more things; one is specific, one is more general ; like the yoga taking up too much time in disco, same with the video colective upstairs; my understanding with this group is the need for two spaces? that's the concern: one o fthe advantages of the space of omni is that spaces dedicated to redundant uses is sort of like blinding us to other possibilities any attempts to work with optik allusions? attempt to rent out the space with attempts, with respec tto an org like omni, why i dont think its a good idea for us to just be carving out spaces to rent out within the omni, necessarily on a long-term basis in the sense that as a common space; would this just become a pscae of carved out space to rent out to collectives for their particular uses

David B: as far as im concerned black hole has been part of this project since the beginning; it has a diffeerent life cycle and thats to be respected, instead of imagining that thi sis a new colelctive- this is an existing member of the community that is requesting that it's needs be met; let's be judicious, bc we could lose them and that would suck; not to be disrespectful to peoples different concerns and i would liek to see how we could work together to process their needs

nik: i would like to suggest that proposals not be submitted unless books are in order in the proposal

kate: voting members with a delegate

david K: i want to thank matt david b and kwe, after fnb they were the only group who was asked to join and not pay anything, and the htought that their project would be incubated and nourished and that it would grow into something that would ; hopefully contributing to monthly donations and such
 * before we moved into the building and what is essentially shared space and what is space used for privileged collective use, i share a gneral concern that it would be not good if there wasn't any commons space at all. and the baps school here relies on space just like that and i think its worht noting that we are generally in support of bhc and has known about their involvement for quite some time, a real community; no where else on the west coast could you come and do this so i think it would be a real resource, its amazin that we can open it to everybody and have it be some rarified thing

Rachel: money should never be what holds us back, we;re all forced to operate in capitalism, the attitude of incubation is a beautiful thing, wiht the good faith understanding that bhc will work on making than that

David b: it seems like mos of the blocking is coming from sudo, so would you or someone from sudo could work with bhc directly, respecting the fact that sudo has those concerns

kwe: if its going to be pushed back, it hsould be answering the concerns of the omni collectively

Meeting-wide discussion of issues,concerns, ideas, etc.
 * = Discussion =

Berkeley Lib Radio: David B reads their description aloud. Would like to rent small 10a to 10p, prerecord when noones there; pair of computer speakers and headphones we switch off mision statement prohibiuts racist ssexist homophobic, other   speech our crew is creative, get our hands dirty $200 mo for rent and can get more if we can use the ballroom 1/mo show

Boards for jobs (rachel n kwe)p

Back to BLR: Yar: some of the details, sudo room might not be the best place- maybe tlak to OpAl, space they don't have yet; member collective? *We are totally flexibly, but don't want to be paying the insurance collective; it was our first thought, but then we found out what it would cost Kwe: i think is a gfreat prposal, in temrs of space i agree that usdo might not be the best space; we have been trying to get a ocmmunity internet radio going in the crow's nest, recently a prposal for turning tha tinto a media post-production space, so i think thatlogistics in terms of getting involved in operationalizing your activies within the omni are def there, just a questoin of which orute you want to take do you want to be aparticipating collective that ocmes on a schedule (e.g. FNB) or do you want to be a tenant and b here all the time, esp the media you're working on, easy to mobilize this *we like to draw from the entire talent pool; just looking around this room; we want to pull everybodyinto this thing; everyone here is smart creative, talented an dhas somehting ot say Matt: wasnt sure if yall have an office, is that the proposal? now what im hearing is that (and actually long haul has a booth set up, once did) now its for a booth but not an officE? *first space appealing to me, rooms iwth windows in the walls, radio studio look, found out about th emold problem, not gonna work we did the proposal stuff, tried to answer 1-7 and then that was kind of the start o fht ediscussion Matt: yall have an office, syoure staying there and thats working for oyu? *we have a room down in west oakland near the rev cafe, we like the lil space, but theres bullet holes, dangerous neighborhood, Matt: are you looking for spac ein the omni that you ciurrently use the office for are you looking for a pscae somehwere else? *we dont have an office, just a studio; desk mixer computers and cd players not huge at all Matt: otential to collaborate with a member colelctive in a way, inter collectively, is another way to work wiht another group already involved. e.x. sudo room too *BLR if theres someone who wants a chace on the raido, well give them an hour to say it, even a regular time slot


 * = Action Items =
 * Put an ad on Craigslist

Any Proposals or Discussions which were tabled for lack of time, etc.
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