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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;added mtg notes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Commons WG 2/7&lt;br /&gt;
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=Attendees=&lt;br /&gt;
* Jenny, Niki, Ryan deilann, Kwe, Nick, Shake, Kwic, Dragon, David&lt;br /&gt;
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=Agenda=&lt;br /&gt;
* Add directly to calendar or submit booking request?&lt;br /&gt;
** Develop guidelines for when we add things directly to the calendar, how many hours any given collective can book free events in the commons spaces&lt;br /&gt;
** One idea from Leah: Keep them as pending until a week before the event&lt;br /&gt;
** Make a request when you add things directly, to commons working group&lt;br /&gt;
* Visibility of conflicting events&lt;br /&gt;
** Low-tech solution with post-its?&lt;br /&gt;
** Folks could take a photo each day to record its state&lt;br /&gt;
** Problem with the current tech solution not showing conflicting events&lt;br /&gt;
** Paper forms that people could put in a box, which we could go through each Saturday&lt;br /&gt;
** Set up a public terminal in La Commune displaying the day&amp;#039;s events&lt;br /&gt;
* Managing the common areas&lt;br /&gt;
** Shake: would like to see each collective managing a common space&lt;br /&gt;
** Cleanliness always an issue&lt;br /&gt;
** Ryan: This consolidates power in the hands of the few, already-overworked&lt;br /&gt;
** Nick: Clear rules and regulations needed re: maintenance&lt;br /&gt;
** Niki: Agree that the lack of structure is problematic, clear points of contact needed&lt;br /&gt;
*** Ryan: Not people&lt;br /&gt;
**** Niki: Right, working groups&lt;br /&gt;
** Tension between do-ocracy and consensus&lt;br /&gt;
** Kwe: We&amp;#039;re doing scheduling alright, but lagging on the management&lt;br /&gt;
* Leyya from Temescal Art Center re: space rental ideas&lt;br /&gt;
** Formalizing a space usage procedure that doesn&amp;#039;t always involve rent, but involves an agreement&lt;br /&gt;
** How to talk to renters who have varying degrees of familiarity with the space&lt;br /&gt;
** Difficulties with charging people - what&amp;#039;s fair?&lt;br /&gt;
*** Leyya: People never expect to get the space for free. The idea that people would expect space for free is a little bit... psychedelic actually. The exchange of *something* changes the way people use and respect the space. &lt;br /&gt;
** How do you prioritize who uses the space?&lt;br /&gt;
*** Stay true to your agreements.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Keeping space protected - eg Saturday nights - that are always for-charge.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Yes, there&amp;#039;s a friends and family rate - and I&amp;#039;m totally transparent about that&lt;br /&gt;
*** Return &amp;amp; ongoing renters prioritized over one-offs&lt;br /&gt;
*** We have tenants in solidarity, what about renters in solidarity? Renters-in-solidarity rate&lt;br /&gt;
** Kwe: Dismantling the idea of &amp;quot;no space for free&amp;quot; - how do we model this as community exchange; need for clearer guidelines if we&amp;#039;re going to host, say, youth media in the future&lt;br /&gt;
** David: Granulated way of assessing how much you should pay. &lt;br /&gt;
** Ryan: Make it a little bit higher up on the form, no clickaway, &lt;br /&gt;
** Jenny: We do have a process in place for assigning point people to events, who make sure the space is prepped beforehand and help with setup and breakdown.&lt;br /&gt;
** Leyya: Set scale for different kinds of events - put it on the event organizers to come up with the variation rather than asking &amp;quot;what can you afford?&amp;quot; - and doesn&amp;#039;t always have to be monetary - eg; carpenters; work-trade agreement - set hours for set task, ~$20/hr&lt;br /&gt;
*** Generally, renters let themselves in, set up the rooms themselves - set these expectations, of do-ocracy, in exchange for the low rates, you have to participate in its use while you use it - put this in the contract&lt;br /&gt;
** Be more clear what the group is charging others&lt;br /&gt;
** Dragon: Space-exchange with TAC as well; also timebanking&lt;br /&gt;
*** Leyya: Make those agreements with people you know can be responsible for them.&lt;br /&gt;
** Kwic: Focus on the business aspect of renting the ballroom - eg Impact Hub, etc; - orientation to train folks on protocol, global membership &lt;br /&gt;
** Leyya: Have folks with A/V needs pay extra for sound &lt;br /&gt;
* David: better financial transparency&lt;br /&gt;
* Leyya: Put out specific requests to volunteers - temescalartscenter@gmail.com&lt;br /&gt;
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=Events=&lt;br /&gt;
* Isaura’s Brazilian Workshop of Dance, Rhythm, Chant with Live Percussion - Kwe following up&lt;br /&gt;
* Parent’s Liberation Workshopping - Kwic will follow up&lt;br /&gt;
* San Francisco Sex Worker Film and Art Festival - Judy following up&lt;br /&gt;
* International Capoeira Encounter and Graduation - Cere following up - niki pinging cere&lt;br /&gt;
* American Library Association Unconference - Robert following up (Jenny to ping Robert)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Niki==&lt;br /&gt;
* El Grillo Bus - Niki&lt;br /&gt;
* rehearsal for sound performance - niki following up with kevin&lt;br /&gt;
* Magnolias All At Once : A Talk with Norman Fischer - niki following up&lt;br /&gt;
* 2 π r  – dance and music production - Niki following up&lt;br /&gt;
* HAXAN Film Festival - Niki / Nick / Dragon&lt;br /&gt;
** Need to cleanse the space after this&lt;br /&gt;
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==Jenny==&lt;br /&gt;
* Practice debate - jenny will follow up&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sarah==&lt;br /&gt;
* Ziji Collective Small Council Meeting and Potluck - Sarah following up - niki pinging cere&lt;br /&gt;
* Second Annual Pi/e Festival - Sarah following up - Jenny put it on the calendar&lt;br /&gt;
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==Taller Ryan==&lt;br /&gt;
* East Bay ShareFest Organizing Meeting - Taller Ryan?&lt;br /&gt;
* RootsKeeper Meeting - Taller Ryan following up&lt;br /&gt;
* East Bay Gift Circle - Taller Ryan?&lt;br /&gt;
* Occupythefarm fundraiser and screener - Taller Ryan following up&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Rachel==&lt;br /&gt;
* we are the future - Rachel is following up&lt;br /&gt;
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==David==&lt;br /&gt;
* Work Party &amp;amp; Sound Testing - DK following up with Stan&lt;br /&gt;
* Kommunity FK anniversary show (pushed back to April) - DK&lt;br /&gt;
* Kristin &amp;amp; Slim’s Wedding Reception &amp;amp; Party - David K following up&lt;br /&gt;
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==Drum Sunday==&lt;br /&gt;
** Would need to move Kristen&amp;#039;s yoga class, she&amp;#039;s flexible&lt;br /&gt;
** Problematic of ongoing in-perpetuity events&lt;br /&gt;
** DK: Need to dial down loud events in the Disco Room. So far the neighbors have been neutral&lt;br /&gt;
** Need to improve soundproofing in that room. Loud events take up way more space than just the room&lt;br /&gt;
** Shake: More cultural events and women-centric events good for the community&lt;br /&gt;
** DK: Has been working constantly on the soundproofing plan - materials, architecht consult, etc&lt;br /&gt;
** Dragon: Maybe the class could take place at TAC&lt;br /&gt;
** Shake: Trial on a month to month basis&lt;br /&gt;
** Kwe: Policy of allowance; Asset-based Community Development workshop / discussion - viewing possibilities over obstacles; lots of assets available to us&lt;br /&gt;
** Jenny: Perhaps we could do a trial starting April, see if Leyya can host them in TAC for March?&lt;br /&gt;
** Niki: Put the language studies folks in contact with them as well to coordinate with each other&lt;br /&gt;
** Niki and Dragon to follow up with them&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Process=&lt;br /&gt;
* Fine-tune process for onboarding new folks to the booking/commons group&lt;br /&gt;
* Need more channels of involvement&lt;br /&gt;
* Committees as sub-groups of the working group - task forces - identify tasks that need doing and assign them to subcommittees&lt;br /&gt;
* Path of development to &amp;#039;certify&amp;#039; folks who&amp;#039;ve completed the sound system training &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Action Items=&lt;br /&gt;
* Put up do-ocracy signs in the space (Shorter Ryan)&lt;br /&gt;
* Work on form to highlight rental rates granulated by need (Jenny)&lt;br /&gt;
** What are you charging for your event?&lt;br /&gt;
** Transparency about our (Omni&amp;#039;s) financials&lt;br /&gt;
** Forefront expectations - &amp;quot;we are a volunteer-run group&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* Charge for A/V needs?&lt;br /&gt;
* Volunteer orientation - David and Jenny&lt;br /&gt;
* Make a pamphlet for onboarding new commons/booking volunteers&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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