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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;added 4/6 building mtg notes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Meeting Minutes 4/6/2015&lt;br /&gt;
These notes also at: https://pad.riseup.net/p/buildings&lt;br /&gt;
Present: Laura T, Matt S, Joe L, amgo, DK, Sean F, Sean L, Jenny, Ali&lt;br /&gt;
==SOUTH WALL SOUNDPROOFING==&lt;br /&gt;
* Sean is point person&lt;br /&gt;
* Blow in insulation?&lt;br /&gt;
* Joe: not industry standard anymore. Now insulate AND&lt;br /&gt;
* how much Sound Transmission Coefficient/Noise &lt;br /&gt;
* How much noise is leaking?&lt;br /&gt;
** Spaz people did decibel reading&lt;br /&gt;
*** Didn&amp;#039;t have&lt;br /&gt;
*** Sean will try to get that reading from spaz&lt;br /&gt;
** 90 decibels might Cabaret law limit&lt;br /&gt;
* Aiming to have this work done first 2 weeks in May&lt;br /&gt;
** Sean&amp;#039;s work&lt;br /&gt;
===SEQUENCE OF WORK===&lt;br /&gt;
* Find out how much sound is coming out&lt;br /&gt;
* get numbers about what sound deadening stuff works how much&lt;br /&gt;
* DK is going to send an email to Brian and CC Sean Logan&lt;br /&gt;
* DK: We should leave it to Brian&amp;#039;s discretion&lt;br /&gt;
** Maybe we can authorize a few hours professional labor for consulting&lt;br /&gt;
*** $150/hour for Brian&lt;br /&gt;
* Jim (architect) might consult for cheap (up to now free)&lt;br /&gt;
** Jim consult with Brian. Brian tell Jim what to mock up on Autocad&lt;br /&gt;
** Contact Seb or Johnny to get decibel equipment and do a sound check under Seb&amp;#039;s supervision&lt;br /&gt;
* THINGS WE NEED &lt;br /&gt;
** Lotsa sheet rock - Home Depot can drop it off&lt;br /&gt;
** Sean must recruit a crew&lt;br /&gt;
* ESTABLISH RELATIONSHIP WITH FACILITIES MANAGER OF CHILDREN&amp;#039;S HOSPITAL AND GET CLICKER FOR PARKING LOT&lt;br /&gt;
==La Commune Wall==&lt;br /&gt;
* Joe is point person&lt;br /&gt;
* Started today hauling stuff away&lt;br /&gt;
* get rid of camper shell&lt;br /&gt;
* if joe can get people to help him he can get some stuff&lt;br /&gt;
* Get help from Jerome&lt;br /&gt;
==PROFESSIONAL HUMAN RESOURCES==&lt;br /&gt;
* Jim-Architect- no charge&lt;br /&gt;
* SEB - sound guy - has lotsa tools - loves OMNI\&lt;br /&gt;
* BRIAN GLASSCOCK - Friend of Seb&lt;br /&gt;
* BRIAN HOOD- Can no longer do it for free hoodconstructionco.com&lt;br /&gt;
* Johnny Latimer - sound guy&lt;br /&gt;
==NONHUMAN RESOURCES==&lt;br /&gt;
* 2 sets of scaffolding under stage &lt;br /&gt;
==WORK DAYS==&lt;br /&gt;
* Door Day&lt;br /&gt;
* Light day&lt;br /&gt;
** install covers on all lights&lt;br /&gt;
* Need to finish tracing conduit - FRIDAY?&lt;br /&gt;
** Need at least 3 pple&lt;br /&gt;
** extension cords&lt;br /&gt;
** kinda confusing - can&amp;#039;t trace all circuits on all subpanels in one day but we can start&lt;br /&gt;
** need to be disconnected - any exposed conduit needs to be inflexible so all the stuff in walls must be destroyed&lt;br /&gt;
==MAPPING ALL CIRCUITS==&lt;br /&gt;
* FRIDAY!&lt;br /&gt;
* Needs at least 3 people&lt;br /&gt;
* Need crew head&lt;br /&gt;
** Matt, Patrik?, DK?, Jake?, Gerald?, Jerome, Rachel?, Liz?&lt;br /&gt;
*&lt;br /&gt;
==La Commune==&lt;br /&gt;
* a row of countertop outlets&lt;br /&gt;
* get counter height cuz don&amp;#039;t want box below counter&lt;br /&gt;
** height may be determined by sink&lt;br /&gt;
==DOORS==&lt;br /&gt;
* APRIL 18 - DO ONE DOOR! marc juul - research all material needs BEFORE DOOR DAY&lt;br /&gt;
* NEED DOOR DAY COORDINATOR&lt;br /&gt;
** Who? DUsty? Liz? &lt;br /&gt;
* ACCESS CONTROL&lt;br /&gt;
* PANIC BARS&lt;br /&gt;
* Maybe one day JUST panic bars&lt;br /&gt;
* Marc Juul might be able to make panic bar/access&lt;br /&gt;
* PREP&lt;br /&gt;
** one set of access control equipment as prototype&lt;br /&gt;
** Marc should finalize this list &lt;br /&gt;
* MARC research panic bars! Panic bars need to be able to integrate with access control system&lt;br /&gt;
==WHAT DO WE NEED PERMITS FOR==&lt;br /&gt;
* front door&lt;br /&gt;
* lighting for la commune&lt;br /&gt;
* &lt;br /&gt;
==FRONT DOOR==&lt;br /&gt;
* one wide door (at least 3&amp;#039; wide) and one 2&amp;#039; wide&lt;br /&gt;
** need door to be 80&amp;quot; high for ADA&lt;br /&gt;
** since we have to raise transom may as well change everything&lt;br /&gt;
** for $5000 Ricky will do the door&lt;br /&gt;
* Joe: T astrical as opposed to post&lt;br /&gt;
*** includes supplies&lt;br /&gt;
** Seppy can&amp;#039;t do the cool double door thing alone now too busy&lt;br /&gt;
** LAURA WILL ASK FRIEND&lt;br /&gt;
** DK WILL ASK A PERSON&lt;br /&gt;
** DK knows a Doug the Anarchist Carpenter&lt;br /&gt;
** DK friend Armel willing to do cool political stained glass thing for top&lt;br /&gt;
==DEVELOPING RELATIONSHIPS WITH CITY PEOPLE==&lt;br /&gt;
* Passing lots of ppl onto Sean F., Joe&lt;br /&gt;
** personal trust and getting along are most important&lt;br /&gt;
==Building &amp;amp; Fire==&lt;br /&gt;
* discrete tasks&lt;br /&gt;
* haven&amp;#039;t yet had a building inspection&lt;br /&gt;
==INSPECTIONS==&lt;br /&gt;
* If inspectors think we are using the building we get a set amount of time to finish project&lt;br /&gt;
* If we are actually working on stuff it&amp;#039;s not as scary&lt;br /&gt;
* City wants us to succeed and probably won&amp;#039;t send over surprise inspection BUTTTTT&lt;br /&gt;
* Commercial Kitchen &lt;br /&gt;
==BASEMENT KITCHEN==&lt;br /&gt;
** Involve Phat Beets&lt;br /&gt;
** Make up air&lt;br /&gt;
** stove - mechanical inspection - don&amp;#039;t say we fixed it - it&amp;#039;s grandfathered in&lt;br /&gt;
*** need to clean out pilot holes&lt;br /&gt;
*** may need new ranges&lt;br /&gt;
** Ansel fire suppression - max knows a good person for $2k&lt;br /&gt;
** Disassemble roof fire suppression&lt;br /&gt;
*** Disassemble exhaust hood on the roof for the kitchen stove fan, writing down the model number for the fan&lt;br /&gt;
** windows&lt;br /&gt;
** floors&lt;br /&gt;
** knock out wall? When?&lt;br /&gt;
** Ask Antonio to do official basement kitchen ($160/visit)&lt;br /&gt;
* Price out kitchen fixes&lt;br /&gt;
* Going to wait for building officials to tell us that we need to replace the stove.&lt;br /&gt;
* Get Phat Beets involved, start a regular kitchen meeting with them?&lt;br /&gt;
==Planning==&lt;br /&gt;
* abstract&lt;br /&gt;
* they are kinda on our side and want us to succeed&lt;br /&gt;
* DK, Sean f, and Joe will go over everything &amp;amp; puzzle out how all to deal with plans, and introduce to planners&lt;br /&gt;
* Together make decisions about what kind of goals want to aim for&lt;br /&gt;
==ADA BATHROOM==&lt;br /&gt;
* Can&amp;#039;t get inspected til La Commune wall is done&lt;br /&gt;
* Need to close holes (?)&lt;br /&gt;
* Liasing with John Givens - Joe?&lt;br /&gt;
** Should also be Board President&lt;br /&gt;
** He loves candy&lt;br /&gt;
** More frequent, short (less than an hour), frequent meetings are best. Perhaps meet on the weekly?&lt;br /&gt;
** Replaced the skylights in sudo/ccl as a nice thing to do for us, could potentially be convincd to do the same thing for the ballroom&lt;br /&gt;
* BID liaison - Sarah P?&lt;br /&gt;
* Neighborhood Groups - JENNY&lt;br /&gt;
** Town SquARED&lt;br /&gt;
** Temescal Merchants Association&lt;br /&gt;
** NextDoor&lt;br /&gt;
** Yahoo group for Temescal&lt;br /&gt;
** 48th Street group&lt;br /&gt;
** Ultra&lt;br /&gt;
** Nautilus &lt;br /&gt;
*** Developers, contact is Lindsay&lt;br /&gt;
* 3-phase power with Nautilus - Whitney &lt;br /&gt;
** New maintenance panel, try to get John to buy it&lt;br /&gt;
* what if we make cost lists for all building projects and then point out ot JG what his $ responsibility&lt;br /&gt;
* JG will suspect we don&amp;#039;t really have to do it&lt;br /&gt;
==CCL PLUMBING==&lt;br /&gt;
* Talk to friend of Laura t scott rector, licensed plumber&lt;br /&gt;
* put mop sink in ADA bathroom &lt;br /&gt;
* Running pipe under the hallway to sudo/ccl to the bathroom there&lt;br /&gt;
* Need to make sure to get John&amp;#039;s approval on all major building repairs&lt;br /&gt;
* Any unlicensed contractor work we do must be done by a MEMBER&lt;br /&gt;
** mechanics leins&lt;br /&gt;
==MISC ACTIONS==&lt;br /&gt;
* Go down to Public Records and look at the redacted records for the building&lt;br /&gt;
* Go file and run in the paper for 30 days &amp;#039;Omni Commons&amp;#039; DBA&lt;br /&gt;
* Update Wishlist on the wiki: https://omnicommons.org/wiki/WishList&lt;br /&gt;
==FOUNDATION BASEMENT==&lt;br /&gt;
* south retaining wall leak&lt;br /&gt;
* mold&lt;br /&gt;
* MPM, Phat Beets, &amp;amp; Black Hole should work on that&lt;br /&gt;
* take down all siding and dry wall against back wall&lt;br /&gt;
* set up apptmt from facilities manager from children&amp;#039;s hospital because may need to build a trnch cuz maybe coming from flower beds&lt;br /&gt;
* SIKA Flecks??&lt;br /&gt;
* plastic on both sides&lt;br /&gt;
* the water table in Temescal is really high&lt;br /&gt;
* oil-based primer over the mold areas after spraying with bleach and dumping a bucket of water on it&lt;br /&gt;
* rip out the carpet in the basement&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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