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		<title>Yar: move plp comments into its own section</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;move plp comments into its own section&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 04:44, 21 January 2022&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l45&quot;&gt;Line 45:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* anka: almost out of the room. just need to clean.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* anka: almost out of the room. just need to clean.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** they&amp;#039;ll still be a member collective&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** they&amp;#039;ll still be a member collective&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* jake&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;president &lt;/ins&gt;jake&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;** emailed PLP folks. bruno said it&amp;#039;s not gonna work out because &amp;quot;omni doesn&amp;#039;t seem solid enough, we need something reliably secure. maybe in the future when you all get more together. whole omni project doesn&amp;#039;t seem solid right now.&amp;quot; so Jake emailed back asking for another chance to discuss their concerns and desires and is waiting to hear back&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* helen, fnb&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* helen, fnb&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* marc: sudo mesh talking to ISOC, co-applying for grant to set up wifi @ local encampment in february&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* marc: sudo mesh talking to ISOC, co-applying for grant to set up wifi @ local encampment in february&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== PLP ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== PLP ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;has anyone heard from them? Jake exchanged emails&lt;/del&gt;. &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;see above&lt;/del&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;jake emailed PLP folks. bruno said it&amp;#039;s not gonna work out because &amp;quot;omni doesn&amp;#039;t seem solid enough, we need something reliably secure. maybe in the future when you all get more together&lt;/ins&gt;. &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;whole omni project doesn&amp;#039;t seem solid right now&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;quot; so Jake emailed back asking for another chance to discuss their concerns and desires and is waiting to hear back&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Roof updates ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Roof updates ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Yar: tonight</title>
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		<updated>2022-01-21T04:39:08Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;tonight&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Omni Delegates&amp;#039; Meeting - Day Month 2022 7pm-9pm&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Talk at https://meet.google.com/diw-hszw-msr or 515-428-1108 (PIN: 465814905)&lt;br /&gt;
* Type at https://omnicommons.org/notes&lt;br /&gt;
* Send proposals to consensus@lists.omnicommons.org prior to the meeting&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Meeting Roles ===&lt;br /&gt;
* Facilitator/s: &lt;br /&gt;
* Stacktaker: &lt;br /&gt;
* Timekeeper: &lt;br /&gt;
* Notetaker/s: Yar, Patrik&lt;br /&gt;
* Next meeting&amp;#039;s facilitator(s): &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Delegates === &lt;br /&gt;
* ANV: active if someone shows up, inactive if not&lt;br /&gt;
* CCL: patrik&lt;br /&gt;
* CSC: active if someone shows up, inactive if not&lt;br /&gt;
* FNB: helen&lt;br /&gt;
* FYE: inactive&lt;br /&gt;
* GWS: inactive&lt;br /&gt;
* LL: Anka (but inactive)&lt;br /&gt;
* Sudo Room: jake&lt;br /&gt;
* Sudo Mesh: juul (but inactive)&lt;br /&gt;
* Quorum (2/3 of active groups): yes sorta i guess&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
= Agenda =&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== intros ==&lt;br /&gt;
* We are front-loading most of the meeting into these intros! Now is the time to put forward any of the following things, many of which used to have their own meeting sections&lt;br /&gt;
** introduce yourself: name, pronoun, affiliation, if you&amp;#039;re a delegate&lt;br /&gt;
** do you have any unmet access needs at this meeting?&lt;br /&gt;
** what land are you on?&lt;br /&gt;
** what meeting roles you&amp;#039;d like to help with&lt;br /&gt;
** discussion topics or proposals you&amp;#039;d like to put on tonight&amp;#039;s agenda&lt;br /&gt;
** report-backs from any of your working groups&lt;br /&gt;
** updates from your collective&lt;br /&gt;
** any brief announcements&lt;br /&gt;
** updates on any conflict mediation&lt;br /&gt;
** if you&amp;#039;ve asked anybody to leave the building due to safe space issues&lt;br /&gt;
* please be BRIEF! Less than 4 minutes per person! Anything that might take longer must be put on the agenda as a discussion item&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* yar sudoroom sort-of&lt;br /&gt;
* sarah, secretary, working groups, almost done with mudding &amp;amp; taping the former crow&amp;#039;s nest room. hopefully ready for equipment storage in ~2 weeks&lt;br /&gt;
** we have a utility sink in hallway bathroom&lt;br /&gt;
* anka: almost out of the room. just need to clean.&lt;br /&gt;
** they&amp;#039;ll still be a member collective&lt;br /&gt;
* jake&lt;br /&gt;
** emailed PLP folks. bruno said it&amp;#039;s not gonna work out because &amp;quot;omni doesn&amp;#039;t seem solid enough, we need something reliably secure. maybe in the future when you all get more together. whole omni project doesn&amp;#039;t seem solid right now.&amp;quot; so Jake emailed back asking for another chance to discuss their concerns and desires and is waiting to hear back&lt;br /&gt;
* helen, fnb&lt;br /&gt;
* marc: sudo mesh talking to ISOC, co-applying for grant to set up wifi @ local encampment in february&lt;br /&gt;
* patrik, ccl still losing money every month, can continue for &amp;quot;several more months&amp;quot; like this. scheduling mushroom workshops. covid preventing most events.&lt;br /&gt;
* angela shows up at the end&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
== treasurer ==&lt;br /&gt;
* john resigning, we need a new one. Will send official resignation mid Feb&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== collective debts ==&lt;br /&gt;
* yar continues to avoid the r word&lt;br /&gt;
* we need serious cash&lt;br /&gt;
* Sudo debt resolved (see below) - others?&lt;br /&gt;
* NOMA owed $1K but is dissolving - agreed to forgive (see below)&lt;br /&gt;
* CSC &amp;amp; GWS are behind by a month or so&lt;br /&gt;
* FYE are behind again, will make a formal proposal soon, might dissolve?&lt;br /&gt;
* CCL &amp;amp; mesh are current&lt;br /&gt;
* ANV is behind but they have the money and it will probably be resolved soon - invoices probably going to wrong person&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== vegan cheese bank account ==&lt;br /&gt;
* ccl needs to change people on the &amp;quot;real vegan cheese&amp;quot; bank account. discussion of logistics, finding and coordinating signers&lt;br /&gt;
* move to sub-account at Unify currently vacant either BAPS or Village?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== NOMA ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Sarah: NOMA is dissolving and moving their stuff out, but never paid the $250/month that was agreed on&lt;br /&gt;
** contract signed May 2021 to go effect in July - theoretically 6 months&lt;br /&gt;
** they said in email that it didn&amp;#039;t go into effect september, and that money in their bank account now is owed to members for supplies&lt;br /&gt;
** so the total debt is $1k&lt;br /&gt;
* do we want to forgive some or all of that?&lt;br /&gt;
** anka: i&amp;#039;m in favor of forgiving it&lt;br /&gt;
** yar in favor of forgiving $1k also&lt;br /&gt;
** helen: we might as well. i don&amp;#039;t see us getting it&lt;br /&gt;
* what happened to NOMA?&lt;br /&gt;
** yar: attrition mostly. didn&amp;#039;t do enough outreach and ran out of energy.&lt;br /&gt;
** sarah: typical for disaster relief organizing&lt;br /&gt;
* free store is separate from NOMA and will continue&lt;br /&gt;
* what&amp;#039;s left in basement?&lt;br /&gt;
** anka: some stuff left&lt;br /&gt;
* CONSENSUS on forgiving $1k from NOMA, as soon as their area is cleaned out by march: yes (Helen/fnb, Jake/sudo, Patrik/ccl, anka/ll, juul/mesh) abstain (none) block (none)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== PLP ==&lt;br /&gt;
* has anyone heard from them? Jake exchanged emails. see above.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Roof updates ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Mike up there almost every day. Has torn out much of the old layers above sudo/ccl - finding soggy layers even weeks after the rain. Planning to completely redo and improve grading. Mike&amp;#039;s Tahoe job got snowed out. Has been buying the &amp;quot;fancy silicone&amp;quot; - DIY has been paying for some of it.&lt;br /&gt;
* patrik: Mike said that the graffiti (west) wall of sudo/CCL needs fixing.&lt;br /&gt;
** sarah: could he give us recommendation on what kind of siding we need&lt;br /&gt;
** patrik: we might be able to see it from the street on 48th&lt;br /&gt;
** sarah will ask (or DK, when he gets back next week)&lt;br /&gt;
* marc heard noises close to midnight - it was mike working on the roof&lt;br /&gt;
* skylights are still being shipped&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Sudo rent mitigation proposal ==&lt;br /&gt;
* https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudo-rent-forgive - proposing to ask for forgiveness for 50% of one year&amp;#039;s rent - $12K. Would not leave much in Sudo&amp;#039;s bank account.&lt;br /&gt;
* paying $12k seems reasonable to me&lt;br /&gt;
* CONSENSUS: yes (patrik/ccl, jake/sudo, anka/ll, marc/mesh) abstain (helen/fnb) block (none); PASSES&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== expenses ==&lt;br /&gt;
* a handful of things need approval&lt;br /&gt;
** reimbursing $580 to DIY for emergency plumbing&lt;br /&gt;
** $500 on basement furnace air filter access&lt;br /&gt;
** $510 crows nest drywall&lt;br /&gt;
** $500 emergency lights in restrooms&lt;br /&gt;
* CONSENSUS on reimbursing $2090 to DIY for those: yes (patrik/ccl, jake/sudo, marc/mesh, anka/ll) abstain (helen/fnb) block (none); PASSES&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
= End of Meeting =&lt;br /&gt;
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* previous notes are archived here: https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Meetings&lt;br /&gt;
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